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The MacRumors Show: John Gruber Talks macOS Ventura and Upcoming Macs

John Gruber joins us this week on The MacRumors Show podcast to discuss the key features of macOS Ventura and upcoming Mac models.

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John is a technology blogger, UI designer, and the inventor of Markdown. He has written for his Apple and technology-focused blog, Daring Fireball, since 2002, and hosts The Talk Show Podcast, which has featured high-profile guests from Apple such as Phil Schiller, Eddy Cue, and Craig Federighi. See John's work on daringfireball.net and follow him on Twitter @gruber.

In this episode, we take a closer look at new features in macOS Ventura like Stage Manager, Continuity Camera, and the redesigned System Settings app. We discuss the current state of the Mac lineup and our favorite models, whether the launch of new Mac models is delayed, and upgrades from next-generation MacBook Pro models. With Apple now passing the initial timeframe it set out to transition the entire Mac lineup to Apple silicon, we also take a look at what to expect from the upcoming Mac Pro.

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Top Rated Comments

Mr. Dee Avatar
49 months ago
Gruber has seemed to lost credibility in the Apple community. He took the over enthusiasm for Apple a little too far and didn't sometimes take of the rose colored glasses when Apple made mistakes. Its like the company can't do not wrong in his eyes. Didn't know Steve Jobs quoting you once could go to someone's head so easily.
Score: 9 Votes (Like | Disagree)
49 months ago
John Gruber?! I for sure will not be listening to this hack. He used to be really good to listen to.
Score: 8 Votes (Like | Disagree)
danakin Avatar
49 months ago
Nope.
Gruber is on the same “not willing to risk brain damage by listening to this moron” list as:
iJustine - vacuous to the nth degree
Rene Ritchie - peak sycophantic banality
I usually listen to the podcast but pass when these folks are on. Max Tech would also make the moron list.
Score: 7 Votes (Like | Disagree)
turbineseaplane Avatar
49 months ago

Gruber has seemed to lost credibility in the Apple community. He took the over enthusiasm for Apple a little too far and didn't sometimes take of the rose colored glasses when Apple made mistakes. Its like the company can't do not wrong in his eyes. Didn't know Steve Jobs quoting you once could go to someone's head so easily.
That's the problem in a nutshell (bold emphasis mine)

A few years ago now I finally unsubscribed from everything of his, everywhere (social, pods, etc)...after over a decade of following him. It bummed me out honestly, but I realized how little I was getting out of listening to him anymore.

He gets referenced as though he's an "analyst", but he's a pretty biased fan of Apple in all honesty.
If you just want very very pro-Apple slant on things, he's a perfect person to deliver it
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)
NUFC2025 Avatar
49 months ago
I normally listen to this but not this time with that guy on it.
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)
killmoms Avatar
49 months ago

No matter how big the issue is, if it involves Apple, Gruber will go to any lengths he can to minimize it or pretend it doesn't exsist.
He’s been blasting Stage Manager on iOS and System Settings in Ventura for months now on DF, on The Talk Show, and on Dithering. His vociferous blogging and podcasting about Safari’s new tab layout last summer all but reversed the feature.

Love all the people in this thread outing themselves as not knowing what they’re talking about.
Score: 4 Votes (Like | Disagree)

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