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Apple Responds to Lawsuit Filed by Three YouTube Channels

Earlier this year, three YouTube channels sued Apple, alleging that the company violated the U.S. Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) by unlawfully accessing and scraping millions of copyrighted YouTube videos to train its AI models.

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In a class action lawsuit filed with the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California in April, the owners of the YouTube channels h3h3Productions, MrShortGame Golf, and Golfholics alleged that Apple "deliberately circumvented" YouTube's protections against video scraping and "profited substantially" by doing so.

Apple's actions were "not only unlawful, but an unconscionable attack on the community of content creators whose content is used to fuel the multi-trillion-dollar generative AI industry without any compensation," the complaint alleged.

h3h3Productions is a well-known YouTube channel created by Ethan Klein and Hila Klein, and they later created the H3 Podcast. Their channels have millions of followers, while MrShortGame Golf and Golfholics have hundreds of thousands of followers. The channels filed equivalent lawsuits against Meta, Nvidia, ByteDance, and Snap.

Apple Responds

Apple responded to the lawsuit this week, according to a court document viewed by MacRumors. In short, Apple said the plaintiffs made the videos publicly available on YouTube and that it was permitted to access the videos under the DMCA. Apple said YouTube's Terms of Service likewise permitted the company to access the videos.

"Plaintiffs allege that they posted audiovisual works to YouTube, and that any member of the public can see them there," reads Apple's response. "No password. No payment. No lock. No key. Allegedly, YouTube employs technological measures to prevent unauthorized downloading. But because YouTube provides public access to the videos, the alleged technological measures do not control access to the works, as § 1201(a) requires."

Apple said the plaintiffs have ultimately failed to state a claim, and it requested that the court dismiss the lawsuit as a result.

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Top Rated Comments

11 weeks ago

Content creators are entitled to their intellectual property. Apple is not entitled to steal it and then plagerize it by using AI to reword it just enough to circumvent copyright laws. Tim Crook deserves zero profits from stealing and plagarizing other people’s work.
I saw this the other day and thought it was relevant and worth discussing...



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Score: 39 Votes (Like | Disagree)
11 weeks ago
"profited substantially"

from what? Apple's legendary, world changing in-house built Siri that killed OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic?
Score: 36 Votes (Like | Disagree)
ThomasJL Avatar
11 weeks ago
Content creators are entitled to their intellectual property. Apple is not entitled to steal it and then plagiarize it by using AI to reword it just enough to circumvent copyright laws. Tim Crook deserves zero profits from stealing and plagiarizing other people’s work.
Score: 25 Votes (Like | Disagree)
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11 weeks ago

"Plaintiffs allege that they posted audiovisual works to YouTube, and that any member of the public can see them there," reads Apple's response. "No password. No payment. No lock. No key. Allegedly, YouTube employs technological measures to prevent unauthorized downloading. But because YouTube provides public access to the videos, the alleged technological measures do not control access to the works, as § 1201(a) requires."
It's good to know that YouTube downloading tools are, according to Apple, legal. I'm sure they also won't have a problem with people downloading any freely-available Apple TV content (I don't follow it so I'm not sure whether there is any at present, but there might be at some point).

As for the YouTubers' claim itself, just because something has been published for free does not mean that it's immune from copyright.
Score: 22 Votes (Like | Disagree)
11 weeks ago
Apple's defense sounds like, "I did it, and I'd do it again."

The word "access" repeatedly used seems irrelevant, doesn't it?

People access copyrighted material all the time. You can access a movie in a movie theatre. You can't video record it as you're accessing it, at least not with the intent to publish it yourself.
Score: 18 Votes (Like | Disagree)
I7guy Avatar
11 weeks ago

Content creators are entitled to their intellectual property. Apple is not entitled to steal it and then plagerize it by using AI to reword it just enough to circumvent copyright laws. Tim Crook deserves zero profits from stealing and plagarizing other people’s work.
Your’re correct. Apple is not entitled to steal it. But they are entitled to use it according to YouTube t&c. It will be up to the courts to decide this case. Not some anonymous poster with an opinion.
Score: 13 Votes (Like | Disagree)

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