AliveCor Praises Apple Watch Ban Amid Its Own Health Tech Patent Dispute With Apple

POTUS is probably going to regret not vetoing this ban come next November. Silicon Valley and Apple evangelist will make it known.

The President absolutely made the correct decision. This veto power is keep goods flowing vital to the country (national security, military, etc.), not to pat a company on the back for being American. In additon, both companies are American.

Masimo is not a patent troll. They make medical devices, have for years, and have been producing SpO2 sensors longer than Apple has been using them. We use 20-50 of the Masimo sensors daily here at work (hospital). Every single hospital in North America uses their devices...and that's not an exaggeration.

What makes you think the Supreme Court would even take up this case?

AliveCor also initiated an antitrust lawsuit ('https://www.macrumors.com/2021/05/26/alivecor-apple-watch-antitrust-lawsuit/') against Apple, alleging that it was making it needlessly difficult for third-party apps to access the Apple Watch's heart rate data.

Requiring my permission to access my data is not needlessly difficult.

Well, they’re acting like patent troll. And so far their intention is to kill the competition. If the patent troll wanted to make things work, why did they make initial offer that only benefits them and not both Apple and them?

As for SCOTUS, considering the unbalanced makeup of the judges, they will take the case. They are all about large business and money. And the patent troll company have nothing when it comes to defending themselves in SCOTUS based on how they have acted so far.

Also, Wall Street and Silicon Valley people likely isn’t happy about SCOTUS decision to veto this, and they’ll make sure to let him know that he made the wrong choice on this come November next year.

SCOTUS doesn't veto, or not veto this, the President does. "Silicon valley" doesn't vote for the president, the people do. They (silicon valley) already have waaaaay too much influence, and as far as I'm concerned, can get bent.

Both companies are large businesses. Masimo is a 35 year-old $7-10 billion company with around 10k employees; they aren't as big as Apple, but they aren't tiny. In addition, they are well-liked and respected in the medical devices community; look for several other big medical companies, with very very large pockets, to come to their defense/aid if it makes it that far.

I will say again, they are not a patent troll. A patent troll is a company that holds a patent but never builds, or has any intention, of building a devices based on said patent, but enforces their rights to it.. Masimo produces more of these sensors in a week than Apple does in a year, and have been selling them for longer than the Apple watch has had said sensors. I would have to check, but I think they have been producing them longer than the Apple watch has existed as a whole.

The President absolutely made the correct decision. This veto power is keep goods flowing vital to the country (national security, military, etc.), not to pat a company on the back for being American. In additon, both companies are American.

Masimo is not a patent troll. They make medical devices, have for years, and have been producing SpO2 sensors longer than Apple has been using them. We use 20-50 of the Masimo sensors daily here at work (hospital). Every single hospital in North America uses their devices...and that's not an exaggeration.

What makes you think the Supreme Court would even take up this case?

Indeed and according to Apples own internal emails which were turned over during discovery, they knew Masimo had what they needed. They considered purchasing the entire company but Tim Cook made the final decision to not buy them and to instead poach as many engineers as needed to replicate their technology.

They even opened a building down the street from Masimo so their employees wouldn't have to uproot their families if they joined Apple.

In this situation, Apple thought they'd get away with it and I'm glad they're not. Don't think for even one second that Apple would let another company do this to them when they infringe an Apple patent, of which Apple files between 5,000 and 9,000 patents per year.

The President absolutely made the correct decision. This veto power is keep goods flowing vital to the country (national security, military, etc.), not to pat a company on the back for being American. In additon, both companies are American.

Masimo is not a patent troll. They make medical devices, have for years, and have been producing SpO2 sensors longer than Apple has been using them. We use 20-50 of the Masimo sensors daily here at work (hospital). Every single hospital in North America uses their devices...and that's not an exaggeration.

What makes you think the Supreme Court would even take up this case?

There is no medical device company that is well-liked. They have been ripping off insurance companies (ultimately us) since they opened their doors. Charging massive amounts of money for devices as simple as knee braces all the way up to implants and there supposedly never being any economy of scale for production.

Neither of these companies is a patent troll… Apple is a thieving bully… love their products not their business practices… Apple’s internal motto must be, “we can out litigate any of these tiny idiots!”

So glad Biden didn’t give Apple a pass, as that would have been the wrong message to bullies everywhere. It would have been like saying keep on bullying, stealing and use your position of power to destroy any competition to Tim and his executives.

Masimo is also acting like a bully. People seem to keep ignoring the fact that Masimo has already has several patents invalided and the rest are being review and fact that Apple holds patents for the tech they are using in their watch.