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EU Mobile Operators Want Apple's iCloud Private Relay Service to Be Outlawed Over Concerns of 'Digital Sovereignty'

Major EU mobile operators are reportedly looking for Apple's iCloud Private Relay service to be outlawed because it allegedly infringes upon EU "digital sovereignty," according to a report from The Telegraph.

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‌iCloud‌ Private Relay was a feature announced with iOS 15 that encrypts data so that neither Apple nor a third-party can see users' browsing activity in Safari. With ‌iCloud‌ Private Rely enabled, a user's internet requests are sent through two separate internet relays, with the first relay being operated by Apple.

The second relay, operated by a third-party company, means no-one, including Apple, can see what website a user visits. More information on how ‌iCloud‌ Private Relay works can be found on Apple's website.

In August 2021, less than two months after ‌‌iCloud‌‌ Private Relay was announced, Vodafone, Telefonica, Orange, and T-Mobile sent a joint letter to the European Commission regarding their concerns over the service. As per the report:

Mobile operators have become locked in a power struggle with Apple after urging regulators to outlaw the iPhone maker's encryption technology over claims it will undermine "digital sovereignty." Some of Europe's biggest mobile operators want the European Commission to stop Apple using "private relay" on the grounds that it will also prevent them from managing their networks.

In the letter seen by The Telegraph, the operators said that while ‌iCloud‌ Private Relay "purports to enhance users' privacy when connecting to and browsing the internet by encrypting and redirecting traffic," it also cuts off "networks and servers from accessing vital network data and metadata, including those operators in charge of the connectivity."

The letter claimed that ‌iCloud‌ Private Relay will have "significant consequences in terms of undermining European digital sovereignty."

In the letter, the operators also called upon the European Commission to label Apple as a "digital gatekeeper" under the EU Digital Markets Act. According to the report, such a label "has the potential to stop services such as Private Relay."

Outside the EU, some network operators in the UK are also concerned. In its own letter, TalkTalk claimed that ‌iCloud‌ Private Relay would "make it more difficult to block dangerous content." In a statement to The Telegraph, TalkTalk said it is "assessing how to respond to this shift and maintain our commitments to keeping our customers safe."

‌iCloud‌ Private Relay is currently available in beta form for users on iOS 15, iPadOS 15, and macOS Monterey, and it's still unclear when Apple plans to bring it out of beta. According to The Telegraph, the European Commission has not responded to the letter from the EU's largest mobile operators. We've reached out to Apple to comment on the concerns raised in the letter.

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Top Rated Comments

thewhitehart Avatar
63 months ago
All the carriers are against it because it impedes them from collecting data on their users. Surprise.
Score: 136 Votes (Like | Disagree)
63 months ago
I could ramble for days about a person’s right to privacy and how wrong I think potential regulation would be.

The biggest issue I see here is that outlawing Private Relay could be viewed as a precedent against encryption in general. If the network operators are unhappy about having no visibility about the types or destinations of traffic traversing their networks, how is that different from a user opting to use a VPN service? A user opting to use iCloud Private Relay is no different to using, for example, NordVPN. The effects are the same even if the underlying technologies differ.

This is not about network operators “wanting to keep their customers safe.” This is all about money and control.
Score: 79 Votes (Like | Disagree)
revanmj Avatar
63 months ago
I wonder if they will want to outlaw VPNs too?

Let's be honest, they do it simply because Apple can entice many average users to enable it, thus hiding their browsing history from those companies. Those that find VPNs and/or encrypted DNSes on their own are minority and thus not a threat like this.
Score: 51 Votes (Like | Disagree)
a m u n Avatar
63 months ago
More likely, they intend to scrape and sell all DNS records, site access, and metadata to third-party agencies for $$$.
Score: 35 Votes (Like | Disagree)
63 months ago

Without being open source or having some sort of auditability or blockchain implementation, Apple’s stances on privacy are not very meaningful. You’re still centralizing your trust. And the average user has no idea what is possible with software….
Did you even read the article?

Also blockchain? Are you serious? You obviously have no idea how blockchain works if you think it relates in anyway to privacy.
Score: 28 Votes (Like | Disagree)
BulkSlash Avatar
63 months ago

Haven't tried this yet. Can someone explain how it works in detail. Is it for hiding your porn history?
It's basically like a simplified version of Tor. You type Macrumors.com into Safari and iOS will encrypt that request into a package and then wrap that encrypted package inside another one which is sent to Apple. Apple then decrypt the outer package and forward the inner package along to the "third party" (I'm not sure who they are). The third party then decrypts the request and actually performs the fetch of the website data.

Then the same process basically happens in reverse with the data sent back to the user being double encrypted and then decoded when it reaches the user's iOS device. So the third party theoretically can't discern who requested the website, Apple can't see any of it, and the user's privacy is retained.
Score: 25 Votes (Like | Disagree)
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